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Star Wars vs Star Trek by 1darthvader Star Wars vs Star Trek by 1darthvader
I know the scales are off and somethings are wrong such as lighting and distances etc blah blah but I hope you like it just as a fun image to get the feel of how it would be if both franchises merged eventually.
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Bundeswehr88 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
One Galaxy class could take out the whole fleet.
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1darthvader Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Cheers
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LordNemeroth1084 Featured By Owner May 27, 2014
Hallo! Me and a friend of mine recently started a sci-fi Facebook page, and we were wondering if we could use this as a cover photo? Credit would be given. We just adore it, he likes Wars and I like Trek, so...
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1darthvader Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah of course you can, I would be grateful if you would send me a link when it's done, just curious
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014
Actually SW has this battle won considering the b-wings and TIE bombers are anti-capital ship star fighters and most star trek starships are capital ships... Beside what in star trek could match the power of the force?
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zetamafia911 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
Star wars have mandalorians, sith and jedi
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1darthvader Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
&?
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Randal510 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013
Star Trek would actually win. Why do I think that you ask, well first off, trusting the technical specifications of The Expanded Universe like Henry Walsh did is like trusting the technical specifications of Trek and Wars in their beloved technical manuals; LIKE HENRY WALSH DID. If you don't know who he is, he is a dude who claims to be physicist who wrote a paper on who would win, Trek or Wars, and he used pretty much both canon and non-canon works based off of both respected universes. Which is not the best way to go, even though many of the works in Wars are indeed canon technically, but they also contradict canon. If a turbolaser blast is specifically 57 megatons worth of force like EU says, tell me; why build a space station specifically to destroy planets? Why was the Death Star Trench Run in A New Hope necessary? So to finish this, I will only be going and regarding what is officially canon and does not contradict canon what, so ever; it is only fair. First off, Federation ships are able to destroy planets by themselves, it was hinted and almost attempted in the TOS Episode; "Operation Annihilation" and literally almost happened in the TNG Episode "A Matter of Time" and happened on the VOY episode; "Scorpion". Even if the Death Star manages to hit the TOS Enterprise, it has taken hits that can destroy planets, remember the TOS Episode "The Doomsday Machine"? Another thing to note; a better civilization does not necessarily mean better weapons, Star Trek literally works hard on advancing their weapons; Star Wars tends to spend more time defending peace than simply advancing their tech, which is apparent. A bigger fleet is pretty much the only advantage the Wars Universe has at this point, technology and weapons wise, Trek wins by far, and I'm surprised it is not as clear and bright as day; I mean a universe as advanced as Star Wars like HW claims should have teleportation tech of some sort. (Even though it was hinted in A New Hope, it was never mentioned in the movies again.) I went by the movies for the sake of simply no contradictions, other portions of the series such as the books and comics and even the games and highly inaccurate tech manuals by Franz Joseph are unreliable and highly contradictory. I do this out of respect for the original stories and love both.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014
No they won't.

First off, time travel doesn't work in the SW universe, the Force itself prevents it. (The obvious reason is Lucas didn't want anyone to go back and alter the movies' timeline)

Second, SW tech has advanced so much that a bloody TIE fighter can fire off 64,000 GW of particle energy. Turbo lasers even back during the Clone Wars have 200 gigatons of particle energy. They made the Death Star because it's so powerful nothing can shield against it, while planetary shields that have been improving for millennia can deflect them. Plus, the Death Star wasn't invented by the Empire, but by the Confederacy which was made up of Republic corporations. They already had the power to create a superlaser, but what they lacked and what the Death Star provided was an impenetrable shell that protects the superlaser and has enough power for said laser. If you're fighting other cultures who don't have the tech to withstand 200 gigatons of particle energy, then simple cruisers can devastate their planets and you wouldn't need the Death Star. The Empire needed it because the Rebels were well-funded insurgents supported by the Senatorial aristocracy.

Third, SW has all-powerful beings in the form of Light-Sided Jedi who have become one with the Force, who don't interfere in mortal affairs, but then the Q aren't mortals.....so the Jedi who have become one with the force, whom Lucas describes as being far more powerful than anyone can possibly imagine (because they became one with the Light) have no qualms about wiping out the Q if they decide to interfere. Especially since the Q can be defeated by HUMANS during the Q Civil War; one member of the Continuum gave humans weapons to kill off other Q members. At this rate, the Sith need only to persuade one member of the Q that he's better off not listening to the Continuum and using the Sith as his servants, and persuade him to give them Q weapons to wipe out the other Q, then the Sith would turn around and kill their patron Q as well once they're done.

And no, the EU is canon. Lucas talked of parallel dimensions in terms of their development; he even used the EU to tie together the movies, such as Force Unleashed to tie up loose ends between episodes III and IV, and the Clone Ears to explain loose ends between Episodes II and III.
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Colostomizer Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014

Don't forget Star Wars weapons haven't evolved much (if at all) in more than 4,000 years. Good R&D, dudes.

Star Trek weapons have increased from 5x10^11 joules in Enterprise to around 9x10^13 joules by Nemesis.

 

P.S. A direct-hit from one of the devastating weapons on Darth Vader's fighter almost killed R2-D2.

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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
LOL dude SW can destroy a planet with a single Star Destroyer class ship in less than a day!
The orbital bombardment leaves nothing but a lifeless,devoid of atmosphere and any kind of resources husk.The Death Star was more of a Terror Weapon and it is made to be able to punch through the planetary shields of SW planets.Which prevent Orbital Bombardment.
If the Galactic Empire, heck the chaotic and problamatic New Republic attacked Star Trek they would kill everyone in the span of a few years.For one Trek ships are smaller than practicly everything the GE and NR have and they are also far weaker in both defense and offense.Most races in Trek lack any real military e.g.The Fedration and are tree hugging hippies that despise war.SW can just chill out hundreds of light years away and pew them with the Galaxy Gun or destroy entire solar systems with the Sun Crusher.Face it even with the Teleporting tech they can't win.For instance they won't be able to lock on to anything due to advanced jamming and scrambling technology that SW posseses.They do not have an entire galaxy at their hands and they do not posses instant galaxy wide communiocation.And if all else fails for some miraculous reason SW still has thousands of years of war experiance and massive armies.They can just pump out droids and clones and send them to battle.
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Randal510 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2013
Yes, because the Death Star Totally needed the help of a few SD's to destroy Yavin, dude, you're argument is filled with so much in-cohesive and inconsistent information it practically contradicts MAIN CANON, which totally overthrows BETA CANON (which is is material outside of the movies/shows). George Lucas is probably disgusted that people even consider this Star Wars, and Galaxy Gun? Really? Like that exists in Star Wars? Seriously, not even shows up in Wookiepedia. The Death Star never punched through any planetary shields, as such devices only exist inconsistently in BETA CANON, the only energy shield used on a planet in Prime Canon is used to only protect a small area of Hoth. The Death Star never destroyed a planet with full planetary shields like you said, the illusion is given in Episode IV but it is merely light reflection from the atmosphere of the planet; similar things happen with Earth when sunlight reaches it from the sun. Star Trek is full of tree hugging hippies who do not want war because you'd have to be foolish to want war, especially since the strongest a Phaser from a Galaxy Class can destroy Kepler 22b 40 times without recharge necessary (to quote technical specs from TNG itself, not the "ALMIGHTY TECHNICAL MANUALS"). You'd have to be real stupid to think that such wars should be necessary with destructive power such as that. Also the quotes on the ship scales are non-sequitor as that just makes them a harder target and makes them more maneuverable; I bet a SD could not hit a Galaxy Class if it tried with it's best Turret Marksmen. Also the military in Star Trek seems to be more capable than the ones in Trek, I am sure one Security officer on any ship fresh out of Starfleet could take on an armada of Imperial Stormtroopers considering Trek Officers have had a better track record of hitting their targets (they had to make a Beta Canon excuse for that, you know your continuity is fucked up if an excuse is made for typical movie plot holes is needed to be explained).  Dude, just be quiet and go back to your fan made technical manuals like a good blind fan who knows nothing Star Wars Canon and actual tech in the universe before you make yourself look more like a fool. 
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2013
For one i don't give a flying fuck about what's cannon and what's not.
A few SD's really could take out the Rebels on Yavin by themselves but in comes the plot story.

Type in The Galaxy Gun idiot, it fires Warheards that travel through hyperspace untill they reach their target and blow it to pieces and this includes planets.

Search up Planetary Shields and you can see an image of Alderaan FROM THE MOVIE with shields failing.It is not an atmospheric illusion.

Don't give me that ''can't hit anything'' shit. You know as well as i do that that is a fake so the plot can go on.SW armour is also able to stop hand held railguns.What hope does a flimsy Phaser
have against armour that absorbs and even deflects energy weapons as powerfull as blasters.They can also have shields which can soak up a lot of enemy fire.

Technical manuals are not a violation of cannon.

SW posseses advanced jamming and targeting computers.
Trek ships are small,have both weak weapons as well as shields and armour.A single Turbolaser shot will cripple their shields.

I have been on forums for quite some time and Trek looses everything unless the Q step in.For fuck's sake SW ships go toe to toe with ships from the Imperium (Warhammer 40K).Even if for some god impossible way they are even weaker than Trek ships they outnumber and out-tech them in almost every way.Faster FTL,faster communication,massive production capability,droids,clones etc.And Trek isn't even an entire Galaxy's worth of territory.

Admit it you are so helpless that you resort to whining about Cannon and Non-cannon stuff when you alredy know Star Wars PWNs Star Trek with a mere 10% of it's military power.
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Randal510 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Just you saying "I don't give a fuck about what is canon and what isn't." pretty much shows you have a total disregard of facts for both universes and only care about the Star Wars Universe facts because those push the SWU in favor which you clearly have a bias for. 

Technical Manuals do contradict canon all the time which is why there is a new one practically every single year!

What did I just say about there being no evidence in prime canon or extra/beta canon evidence of planetary shielding in SWU? You completely ignore me because you have no idea what you yourself are talking about because you are blindly following what Henry Walsh told you! And that guy's statement about both universes are completely wrong!

Look, I did not even find the Wookiepedia article on the Galaxy Gun, so I would stop talking about it if I were you.

If the SWU needs a canonotical explenation of why Stormtroopers are bad shots and why not all of them are clones; I consider that a huge problem, also; "Not as clumsy or random as a Blaster." Ben Kenobi/SW:IV ANH. Even Obi-Wan acknowledges the fact that Blasters are often inaccurate weapons!

What forums have you been on? Stardestroyer.net? If so, shut your mouth until you join a real unbiased sci-fi forum.

Since when was SWU capable of having Armor strong enough to take a rail gun blast? That totally destroys the whole argument of "technical manuals are not a violation of canon".

Since when does having faster FTL mean ANYTHING in this argument? Communication; perhaps, that is debatable in itself. Droids? You mean to tell me C-3PO is more advanced than Data? Seriously? Come on... If you even watched Trek you'd know that the UFP has regulations and laws against the cloning of living beings. 

Territory means nothing if you do not have the means to protect it, I have already made my claims as to why STU would beat SWU in my first comment if you will.

I resort to canon because it is necessary and not needing to rely on assumptions and suspension of disbelief; it takes more than 4.56 million Jules to destroy a planet (according to the George Lucas approved technical specifications you so dearly cling onto because they are your "salvation"). If you want me to go outside of canon; Temperal Federation vs. Darth Krayt's Galactic Empire; Temporal Federation can go back in time and kill the SWU before it even existed as a means to make sure time as we know it does not get tampered with as their presence in another galaxy other than their own is an impossible way to stop. Which overall brings a huge problem with the overal Beta/extra Canon=SWU Victory argument, it does not bring the strongest nations together and puts them in battle, the fight between Trek and Wars is more mismatched than Goku vs. Superman and I am tired of hearing it, I have better things to do than prove you wrong.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy…

Are you really as retarded as that?

C3-PO is actually pretty damn advanced for a simple household droid.Millions of languages,labor,calculations etc. are very handy things.I don't see Trek having any droids or robots like these.
Droids such as HK-45 are highly advanced.HK can just go out in a stealth ship and assasinate enemy ''meat bag'' leaders with ease.

Verpine shatter guns are hand-held raiguns that can penetrate tank armour.
The Commandoes of Omega squad told the Caminoan armourers about their problems with Verpines on their first mission and they made new armour that can whitstand them.

And SW can't protect it's territory why now?
Production that can make about 3 capital ships per day and countless of droid armies can't protect it's own ''land''?

Cool story bro....

FactPile,Force.net etc.

I don't give a crap about Lucas' whole shitty cannon and non-cannon because it is all perfectly within actual reason and the only reason why he said that only his movies are cannon is probably so that there would be more space to make more stuff so he can get more money.

Basicly his greed and idiocity.

Star Trek is simply outnumbered,outgunned and out-teched.This is all that is needed for their downfall.
No superweapons or biological weapons, just simple space and ground combat and they still just can't win.
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Colostomizer Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014

"Star Trek is simply outnumbered,outgunned and out-teched.This is all that is needed for their downfall."

 

Outnumbered yes, but with their lack of FTL sensors and transporters, in what sense do they "out-tech" Star Trek?

Star Wars weapons top-out around 20% of Trek phasers (if you don't count the Death Star, of course)

Didn't an A-Wing destroy the Executor by crashing into its bridge? What good are deflectors that can't deflect low-speed collisions with small objects? Seriously, what are they deflecting?!?

 

Don't get me wrong, the Empire could probably still beat the Federation and Klingons combined. After all, Trek ships may be three times as powerful and durable, but Star Wars ships have many times more ships and each ship has loads more weapons.

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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014
Nope.
200 gigatons turbo lasers were in use during the Clone Wars as guns for fucking TROOP TRANSPORTS. Proton torpedoes can bypass shields AND home into targets and have just as much a punch as a turbo laser.

At this rate, all they need is the Rebels. Even the Borg would get blown up by the sheer firepower of rebel starfighters, just as they can't defend against species 8472 because the latter uses weapons too strong for the Borg to adapt against. 
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
A starfighter's Laser cannons are rated at Kilotons.
That's more than ST Capital ship weapons.

Do we see any other such things happening anywhere else in SW as in ANYWHERE?
No,that was made by the plot.Such things literally make no sense out of the movies.
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Colostomizer Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014

Plus, I've got a small, portable computer than can conduct just over 2 billion F/E cycles per second and is programmed with enough languages to communicate with 99% of the Earth's population.

 

It's called a Comm. Badge.

Err, an iPad.

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XizerTheGrey Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
As if it would even be a contest. Even the pitiful Rebel Fleet could crush the Star Trek universe.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014
All they need are X-Wings, Y-Wings, and B-Wings.
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XizerTheGrey Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014
Well said indeed.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Ever played Empire At War Forces of Corruption? 
TIE Defenders all the way.........the proton torpedoes can bypass shields, blowing up ship systems quite easily.
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XizerTheGrey Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Well Proton Torps don't actually go through shields except in the game. Though they do collapse shields much quicker than lasers. The Defenders would annihilate them though easily.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
I seem to recall EPIV talking about proton torps bypassing shields.....
Gen. Dodonna: "the shaft is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes."
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XizerTheGrey Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
There are ray and particle shields. Ray only protect against energy while particle deflect solid items such as torpedoes and hold in atmosphere. The exhaust port had ray shielding but not the particle as particle can also keep in/out heat exhaust so that is why they weren't covering the Thermal Exhaust port.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
True enough, I suppose......though there are the ion cannons, so there's that....
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nomyai Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
For me this is just about an impossible call. Both have extremely high tech capabilities but what might be the trump card is "The Force". Just not certain one way or the other.

But, this does beg the question. Does "The Force" work in all known galaxies or just in that Galaxy Far Far Away? ;-)
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
The Force resides in EVERYTHING.
So yeah no matter where you go The Force is always with you :P
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1darthvader Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The other thing to consider is hyperdrive, Feds won't be able to catch the rebels and imperials if they escape because they could end up on the other side of the galaxy whereas it could take years for a trek ship to travel that distance.
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KingNot Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
Star Wars has the more advanced technology, by far, but it's "Retrograde". Essentially they are a near level 4 civ pretending to be a level 3. Star trek is Level 2 working hard on a far off goal of Level 3. Star Trek ships don't have to turn to aim and fire, but Star Wars shields are better. Likewise the phasers are speed of light versus not speed of sound. Star Trek doesn't use armor, Star wars does but an Ewok arrow can pierce it... Star Wars has a power supply of "Dilithium Crystals" that work as a catalyst for Anti-matter synthesis, and the warp drives bend space/time. Star Wars can travel much faster, and can tap hyperspace for "Hypermatter" which generates much greater energy than even matter/antimatter.

Likewise, the people in Star Wars are overall pretty peaceful but a war starts up they fight like mad. The people of Star Trek are full of choking peaceful political correctness but ready to be warlike at any excuse. The interesting part is in Star Wars the governments, the officials are most often war like and war starters while in Star Trek the people actually risk getting in big trouble using violence to counter threats because they can't wait for the bureaucracy to give them the OK.


In principle it'd depend on the leaders who'd win. Star Wars led by Vader would, because he's smart enough to work out their tech's potential. They could use droids for shock troops and bombardment star battles in case the phaser/photon torpedo's ability to aim instantly was better than the blaster/shields. Moving far faster alone can win about any war. And not just the Death Star or cheaper "Star Lance", Vader could work out rigging star drives into big asteroids and launching them as cheap bombardments on colonies/starbases. That and pure numbers of troops that could be thrown and acceptance of insane loss rates, Star Wars should win. The pure resource base of Star Wars is easily 1000x Star Trek.


Star Trek led by Captain Kirk just might be able to counter that. He'd work out deals with the Romulans, Klingons for a "Desperate Alliance". The Klingons would be scared, note that the "Empire" was subtly out to marginalize non-humans, but just enough leaked out for the non-human aliens to be freaking out. And plenty of Star Wars aliens (Wookies, Gamorran, Hutt) bigger, meaner, crazier than Klingons. So rather than admit scared, working with their former worst enemy to fight a worse enemy would be not just acceptable, it'd be pure honor. So the klingons would savagely fight to counter the droid onslaught. The Romulans would be jaw-dropped by the "Illogical Waste" of the Star Wars tech and look forward to working with even Kirk and the Klingons to conquer and gain the technology as fast as possible. There is the 1000x resource difference, but Star Wars is heavily leader driven. (at least in the movies) So get rid of Vader somehow and draw lines the Star Wars forces can't get past easily, the next goverment be it Rebel or even later Imperials would make a compromise and cease hostilities and open up trade routes.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
Um blasters and most other energy based weapons in SW fire Charged Particle Beams which travel at near light speed and are practicly an instakill on anyone without heavy SW armour.The Ewoks would never be able to pierce the Stormtrooper armour by a long shot.It's just plot driven to happen so that the good guys could somehow win.
SW ships are very well made in the dagger form.This way there is no need to turn the entire ship around to fire the broadside because the sleek ship design enables ALL guns to fire forward.
GE just pews off a system or two and Trek surrenders.either that or complete annihilation.
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NICELabs Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
An epic scene and very well done, though Trek has too much magic tech... one ship could take out anything the Star Wars universe could throw at them and never get hurt... way back in the original series it was established that in Trek ships fought at warp speeds... faster than light. Star Wars ships couldn't even detect the Trek ships much less shoot at them with lasers and sublight torpedoes... and if they bring in the most powerful tech in the trek universe, transporters, it's over.

Star Wars does have the Force on it's side which is the only equalizer, but stopping a fleet would be a tall order.

Now something like Star Wars vs Babylon 5 would be nasty. Star Wars would have the tech advantage there, but still be close enough (especially with some of the alien B5 races thrown in) to make it a true contest.
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1darthvader Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Star Wars vs battle star galactica
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CaptRedJack Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
cool pic bro
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EdGarcia Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
Okay. I have a question for you if we look at both unbiasedly the shields and Phasers of the Star Trek ships have been shown to be much superior than Star War. However my question to you is your own personnel take on: Can A LightSaber block a Hand Phaser beam set on the Disrupt/ (total atomization) cycle.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014
Nope.
Trek shields can't block 400 GW of particle energy, while the max firepower for a starfighter's blaster cannons is 64K GW.
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1darthvader Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Good question, I would like to think so, I can only speculate but I'm guessing a saver blade would deflect it like a mirror.
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JazzLizard Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I love it, I've actually had this discussion a few times with some sci-fi friends :)
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SSG-Scorps Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
The lack of X-wings is disturbing
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Shainp113 Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Student Writer
Beautiful. I'm a bigger Star Wars fan personally... But I think Star Trek's shielding and weapons capabilities far outclass Star Wars's blasters and shields... Where it gets questionable is when the enterprise takes on the Death Star, Star Forge, Dark Reaper, Sun Crusher and other Star Wars WoMD
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Swreynolds83 Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I really like this, but wheres the Galaxy-Class ships?
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1darthvader Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Why does trek always have to have a galaxy in it.
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Swreynolds83 Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Cause galaxies kick ass
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Randal510 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013
Constitutions are cooler though.
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Swreynolds83 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Abramsverse or Original Trek? Cause I think Constitution Refits from the movies with original Kirk are the best IMO.
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Randal510 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013
Original Trek. The Movie Constitution is cool, but looks to NASA-fied, there was a sense of surrealism in the TOS design I liked. I also liked Abram-verse Enterprise, I thought it looked cool but not as good as ol' TOS.
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Swreynolds83 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
TOS Enterprise was awesome! Who else rides around the galaxy with two big bright red nacelles to let every power hungry Klingon that James Kirk is ready for a fight...? :D
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Randal510 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013
I agree, it looked awesome, and the cool design of the ships helped me get into it more.
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